I believe their are a lot of honest sincere atheist and agnostic people who are interested in the truth. Truth is something many people desire. When someone doesn't have a deep understanding of spiritual things, it's easy to find many errors and contradictions, especially if that's your motive. I have many answers to many statements that skeptics use as contradictory, errors, and in this case plagiarism. The Bible has many similar stories to earlier published stories, but that doesn't make it guilty of plagiarism. For example, Adam and Eve obviously told their offspring of the Great Fall, and that story has been passed down from generation to generation. Now whomever has the earliest record it would seem as though they were the authors of the original story, whereas in reality they were the first to record it. So when we see a similar story in another culture and language, it doesn't necessarily mean that they plagiarized, it could just be that they decided to record the story later or maybe they had older manuscripts that were destroyed... This concept is applicable to other stories in the Bible. So if you are a believer, don't defer your faith. And if you don't believe or have doubts it's time to regain your faith. Remember faith is the substance of things Hoped for, evidence of things Unseen and without faith it is impossible to please God, and anything that is not faith is sin (Hebrews chpt. 11).
Absolutely. I firmly believe it's easier to believe in an always existent God who created us in His image than something coming from nothing and evolving.
I agree, it is easier to believe in a God who magicked everything into existence and is all benevolent, but reality doesn't comply to those rules. Adam and Eve had two sons, who got married and had children of their own. Except Adam,Eve and and their children were the total sum humans on earth. Who did Cain and Abel marry? More importantly, I find it very concerning the thing God didn't want Eve to eat was Knowledge. The human body is so poorly designed, God must be either incompetent or malevolent to design us the way he did. His replication system doesn't even work correctly, as can be shown through genetic diseases, which are the result of the genetic replication failing. If evolution isn't correct, why is the fossil record full of transitional fossils? If evolution doesn't work, how come modern medicine works? How come the human Genome project found hundred of redundant traits in our DNA? If anything, I think the biblical view devalues everything humans have achieved. Rather than fighting our way to the top through millions of years of evolution, all our achievements can be attributed to some ethereal being. But this wasn't what caused me to lose faith. Ironically enough, it was the Bible itself. I've never read a more despicable barbaric book in my life. All of Gods punishments were unfair and his demands ludicrous. Rape a woman, she's now married to you. Work on the sabbath = death. Child argues against parents = death. Claims gays to be evil, well why are they even there in the first place?! It didn't help that it constantly defied reality. Such as a man surviving in the stomach of a whale for more than three days. ( whales don't produce oxygen in their Stomach)
How would you explain the saving power Grace and healing in the name of Jesus Vain philosophies,fear If you didn’t believe in the word of God Where do you think the laws of the land originated from The world would have been more corrupt and perverted Evil is running rampant today but even when the laws of the land changes people get even more mentally ill, human trafficking,greed and gluttony etc Don’t wait too late to make a decision about eternity…..hades or heaven Man are drawn away about their own thoughts, lust of the flesh, pride of life Have you noticed even the rich man with his or her wealth cannot saved themselves There is a void that cannot be satisfied by lust, gluttony, wealth….man forever searching but never come to the knowledge of truth
Since you obviously have a degree in Theology from YouTube U, when were you planning on updating the rest of our biblical scholars with the truth? "...an always existent god"? So when the bible reads "In the beginning..." and claims your god created everything, where can we point our telescopes to see the evidence of his influence in our temporal and physical reality? To pull creation off, god would have to exist outside time and space and thus interact with our three dimensional space which would leave behind evidence. It's an unfortunate effect of the physical laws your god built into the universe he created. Answering with "God's not bound by those laws, he's God.", is essentially the same nonsensical BS as someone asking if god could create something so heavy that even he couldn't lift it. The rest of the kids on the playground must so jealous! "...created us in his image"? Last I checked, I had a reflection in the mirror. I'm also pretty confident that I've seen other people in my lifetime. Why aren't we invisible? Who has a picture of god that I can compare to a picture of a human? "...something from nothing..."? Matter and energy are two facets of the same item. Wouldn't you agree? We can change matter into energy (think nuclear explosion) and vice versa (think man-made elements). Now if all of the matter and energy in our universe were closer together yesterday than they are today, then at some point in the very distant past they must have been extremely close together. Would you say that this tightly compacted matter/energy accumulation is "nothing" as you claim? Now keep rewinding time until matter and energy can no longer be discerned as distinct items but actually are one homogeneous mix of that is neither matter nor energy but a zero dimensional point of infinite density/temperature. Is that still "nothing"? You can't put a tape measure on it as it has no dimensional properties that we experience in our macroscopic lives. You can't weigh it as there's no frame of reference for that property to make sense. Is "nothing" still the answer you want to assume "something" came from? Why is it that apologists conveniently forget all the stuff that comprises our universe when they think of the Big Bang? "...evolving"? Were you born full-size at exactly your current age from some dust god pulled together? Do you believe that the human reproductive process was installed into two adult humans of opposite sex in fully working condition? Bear in mind these two humans were genetically identical as the rib from one was used to create the second. What happens when there's a lot of inbreeding in a closed group of, well, anything? Think English monarchy or Kentucky (not all Kentuckians, just the ones that wouldn't read this or understand it if they did). You get a butt-load of window-lickers. Now Adam and Eve had two sons initially. One killed the other, leaving just one son and Adam and Eve. Who did Cain marry to continue his lineage up to Enoch and the flood? Do you want to rethink your position on any portion of your statement? This planet has seen no less than five mass extinctions in 4.5 billion years. Perhaps, just perhaps, we are the latest product of evolution on a planet that has had several radical readjustments to environmental conditions necessary to maintain a fragile hierarchy of living organisms. <- This answer is MUCH easier than yours, has far fewer logical fallacies, fits with the observable and testable evidence, and isn't unnecessarily complex due to injecting a "creator" into an otherwise elegant reality.
I think Mark Wilson is an insecure, scared person who needs a sky daddy to make him feel better about his mortality. He's so brainwashed that there is nothing anyone can say to change his mind. True faith fanatics, when asked if there is any proof that they would accept to show their beliefs are based on fiction, will answer no. They suspend all critical thinking and reason.
IS this correct? God created Adam and Eve plus the Devil to tempt them. Adam and Eve had children who obviously incestuously had children and their children had children ad infinitum. Plus if the Dinosaurs were around for millions of years, what was God doing until he decided to create man in his own image?
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Do you actually believe Adam and Eve were real?
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I believe their are a lot of honest sincere atheist and agnostic people who are interested in the truth. Truth is something many people desire. When someone doesn't have a deep understanding of spiritual things, it's easy to find many errors and contradictions, especially if that's your motive. I have many answers to many statements that skeptics use as contradictory, errors, and in this case plagiarism. The Bible has many similar stories to earlier published stories, but that doesn't make it guilty of plagiarism. For example, Adam and Eve obviously told their offspring of the Great Fall, and that story has been passed down from generation to generation. Now whomever has the earliest record it would seem as though they were the authors of the original story, whereas in reality they were the first to record it. So when we see a similar story in another culture and language, it doesn't necessarily mean that they plagiarized, it could just be that they decided to record the story later or maybe they had older manuscripts that were destroyed... This concept is applicable to other stories in the Bible. So if you are a believer, don't defer your faith. And if you don't believe or have doubts it's time to regain your faith. Remember faith is the substance of things Hoped for, evidence of things Unseen and without faith it is impossible to please God, and anything that is not faith is sin (Hebrews chpt. 11).
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Absolutely. I firmly believe it's easier to believe in an always existent God who created us in His image than something coming from nothing and evolving.
I agree, it is easier to believe in a God who magicked everything into existence and is all benevolent, but reality doesn't comply to those rules.
Adam and Eve had two sons, who got married and had children of their own. Except Adam,Eve and and their children were the total sum humans on earth. Who did Cain and Abel marry?
More importantly, I find it very concerning the thing God didn't want Eve to eat was Knowledge.
The human body is so poorly designed, God must be either incompetent or malevolent to design us the way he did. His replication system doesn't even work correctly, as can be shown through genetic diseases, which are the result of the genetic replication failing.
If evolution isn't correct, why is the fossil record full of transitional fossils? If evolution doesn't work, how come modern medicine works? How come the human Genome project found hundred of redundant traits in our DNA?
If anything, I think the biblical view devalues everything humans have achieved. Rather than fighting our way to the top through millions of years of evolution, all our achievements can be attributed to some ethereal being.
But this wasn't what caused me to lose faith. Ironically enough, it was the Bible itself. I've never read a more despicable barbaric book in my life. All of Gods punishments were unfair and his demands ludicrous. Rape a woman, she's now married to you. Work on the sabbath = death. Child argues against parents = death. Claims gays to be evil, well why are they even there in the first place?!
It didn't help that it constantly defied reality. Such as a man surviving in the stomach of a whale for more than three days. ( whales don't produce oxygen in their Stomach)
I believe these are very great and powerful resources, what do y'all think?
The Genesis Conflict Series:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwQY8D8NXJNOCZ6o78mLhCXxLivln7X6V
Have You Swallowed The Hook Series?:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL13eE2x3qhPl7ka2P7yD7VP6XBmree6vJ
Did Darwin Murder God?:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjfLxyxVTljFdgdL4gJK8jehBcAe-ml_M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dKQ1Fm_W-I
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4875/t/is-there-anything-left-you-can-trust-
How would you explain the saving power Grace and healing in the name of Jesus
Vain philosophies,fear
If you didn’t believe in the word of God
Where do you think the laws of
the land originated from
The world would have been more corrupt and perverted
Evil is running rampant today but even when the laws of the land changes people get even more mentally ill,
human trafficking,greed and gluttony etc
Don’t wait too late to make a decision about eternity…..hades or heaven
Man are drawn away about their own thoughts, lust of the flesh, pride of life
Have you noticed even the rich man with his or her wealth cannot saved themselves
There is a void that cannot be satisfied by lust, gluttony, wealth….man forever searching but never come to the knowledge of truth
Since you obviously have a degree in Theology from YouTube U, when were you planning on updating the rest of our biblical scholars with the truth?
"...an always existent god"? So when the bible reads "In the beginning..." and claims your god created everything, where can we point our telescopes to see the evidence of his influence in our temporal and physical reality? To pull creation off, god would have to exist outside time and space and thus interact with our three dimensional space which would leave behind evidence. It's an unfortunate effect of the physical laws your god built into the universe he created. Answering with "God's not bound by those laws, he's God.", is essentially the same nonsensical BS as someone asking if god could create something so heavy that even he couldn't lift it. The rest of the kids on the playground must so jealous!
"...created us in his image"? Last I checked, I had a reflection in the mirror. I'm also pretty confident that I've seen other people in my lifetime. Why aren't we invisible? Who has a picture of god that I can compare to a picture of a human?
"...something from nothing..."? Matter and energy are two facets of the same item. Wouldn't you agree? We can change matter into energy (think nuclear explosion) and vice versa (think man-made elements). Now if all of the matter and energy in our universe were closer together yesterday than they are today, then at some point in the very distant past they must have been extremely close together. Would you say that this tightly compacted matter/energy accumulation is "nothing" as you claim? Now keep rewinding time until matter and energy can no longer be discerned as distinct items but actually are one homogeneous mix of that is neither matter nor energy but a zero dimensional point of infinite density/temperature. Is that still "nothing"? You can't put a tape measure on it as it has no dimensional properties that we experience in our macroscopic lives. You can't weigh it as there's no frame of reference for that property to make sense. Is "nothing" still the answer you want to assume "something" came from? Why is it that apologists conveniently forget all the stuff that comprises our universe when they think of the Big Bang?
"...evolving"? Were you born full-size at exactly your current age from some dust god pulled together? Do you believe that the human reproductive process was installed into two adult humans of opposite sex in fully working condition? Bear in mind these two humans were genetically identical as the rib from one was used to create the second. What happens when there's a lot of inbreeding in a closed group of, well, anything? Think English monarchy or Kentucky (not all Kentuckians, just the ones that wouldn't read this or understand it if they did). You get a butt-load of window-lickers. Now Adam and Eve had two sons initially. One killed the other, leaving just one son and Adam and Eve. Who did Cain marry to continue his lineage up to Enoch and the flood? Do you want to rethink your position on any portion of your statement? This planet has seen no less than five mass extinctions in 4.5 billion years. Perhaps, just perhaps, we are the latest product of evolution on a planet that has had several radical readjustments to environmental conditions necessary to maintain a fragile hierarchy of living organisms. <- This answer is MUCH easier than yours, has far fewer logical fallacies, fits with the observable and testable evidence, and isn't unnecessarily complex due to injecting a "creator" into an otherwise elegant reality.
Please check out these resources
The Genesis Conflict Series:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwQY8D8NXJNOCZ6o78mLhCXxLivln7X6V
Have You Swallowed The Hook Series?
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL13eE2x3qhPl7ka2P7yD7VP6XBmree6vJ
Did Darwin Murder God?
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjfLxyxVTljFdgdL4gJK8jehBcAe-ml_M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dKQ1Fm_W-I
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4875/t/is-there-anything-left-you-can-trust-
great reply!!
Here are some awesome resources:
The Genesis Conflict Series:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwQY8D8NXJNOCZ6o78mLhCXxLivln7X6V
Have You Swallowed The Hook Series?:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL13eE2x3qhPl7ka2P7yD7VP6XBmree6vJ
Did Darwin Murder God?:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjfLxyxVTljFdgdL4gJK8jehBcAe-ml_M
I think Mark Wilson is an insecure, scared person who needs a sky daddy to make him feel better about his mortality. He's so brainwashed that there is nothing anyone can say to change his mind. True faith fanatics, when asked if there is any proof that they would accept to show their beliefs are based on fiction, will answer no. They suspend all critical thinking and reason.
IS this correct? God created Adam and Eve plus the Devil to tempt them. Adam and Eve had children who obviously incestuously had children and their children had children ad infinitum. Plus if the Dinosaurs were around for millions of years, what was God doing until he decided to create man in his own image?