I know SQL extremely well but I still believe ORMs are generally better than hand-coding SQL and using triggers, functions and views. Especially if it's an app.
Our discussion is going to nowhere. No offence but if sql statements are hard to read and hard to debug don't use sql at all if its to hard to learn it :) The only reason why people are so afraid of using sql is that they don't know it very well so using orm is very cosy.
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I know SQL extremely well but I still believe ORMs are generally better than hand-coding SQL and using triggers, functions and views. Especially if it's an app.
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Our discussion is going to nowhere. No offence but if sql statements are hard to read and hard to debug don't use sql at all if its to hard to learn it :) The only reason why people are so afraid of using sql is that they don't know it very well so using orm is very cosy.